mikesilb...EII or a different type?

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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby RSV3 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:18 pm

mikesilb wrote:OK, here is the video that answers this question. (Thanks for your feedback about the technical aspects regarding putting videos on this page).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azLSsgb3n-4

I'm curious what your thoughts are based on this video. Thanks!

Thanks for the video! I just watched it, but It might take me a day or two to write a response.
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby mikesilb » Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:00 pm

No problem at all. Take all the time you need.
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby Kittykat » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:56 pm

I don't have a whole lot to say, but I will say this: you certainly seem delta in the video, as far as I can see. Striving for a sense of purpose, wanting to be a a part of a greater good, broadening horizons, etc., is something that I (a delta NF) certainly resonate with. In my experience, with Beta NF's (and please understand I'm not trying to type all Beta NF's as jerks or something, these are just my observations) it seems that they tend to look out more for themselves a lot--how does this benefit *me*, how will this put *me* ahead of everybody else, etc. I hope this helps. :)
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby RyeneAstraelis » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:19 am

Kittykat wrote:I don't have a whole lot to say, but I will say this: you certainly seem delta in the video, as far as I can see. Striving for a sense of purpose, wanting to be a a part of a greater good, broadening horizons, etc., is something that I (a delta NF) certainly resonate with. In my experience, with Beta NF's (and please understand I'm not trying to type all Beta NF's as jerks or something, these are just my observations) it seems that they tend to look out more for themselves a lot--how does this benefit *me*, how will this put *me* ahead of everybody else, etc. I hope this helps. :)


The first two, at least, can apply to Betas. Not to say that this guy is one; just making the statement.
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby aestrivex » Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:50 am

mikesilb wrote:OK, here is the video that answers this question. (Thanks for your feedback about the technical aspects regarding putting videos on this page).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azLSsgb3n-4

I'm curious what your thoughts are based on this video. Thanks!


wow, this is a truly excellent example of a video that is immensely informative with respect to self-presentation.
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby mikesilb » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:16 am

Kittykat wrote:I don't have a whole lot to say, but I will say this: you certainly seem delta in the video, as far as I can see. Striving for a sense of purpose, wanting to be a a part of a greater good, broadening horizons, etc., is something that I (a delta NF) certainly resonate with. In my experience, with Beta NF's (and please understand I'm not trying to type all Beta NF's as jerks or something, these are just my observations) it seems that they tend to look out more for themselves a lot--how does this benefit *me*, how will this put *me* ahead of everybody else, etc. I hope this helps. :)


Thank you for your feedback. What you write agrees very much with my gut instinct regarding which quadra feels right to me. Speaking of which, my current quadra preference order is Delta>Alpha>Beta>Gamma. With me, it is more about cooperation and individuality rather than competition and overly dramatic theatrics. So you are totally spot on here! Thanks so much!
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby mikesilb » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:18 am

aestrivex wrote:
mikesilb wrote:OK, here is the video that answers this question. (Thanks for your feedback about the technical aspects regarding putting videos on this page).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azLSsgb3n-4

I'm curious what your thoughts are based on this video. Thanks!


wow, this is a truly excellent example of a video that is immensely informative with respect to self-presentation.


I am incredibly curious what type of things you see in this video and if any tell-tale signs emerge from it. I find your reaction to it highly intriguing and I would love to find out more about what you thought about it! Thanks in advance!
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby aestrivex » Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:33 pm

mikesilb wrote:
aestrivex wrote:
mikesilb wrote:OK, here is the video that answers this question. (Thanks for your feedback about the technical aspects regarding putting videos on this page).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azLSsgb3n-4

I'm curious what your thoughts are based on this video. Thanks!


wow, this is a truly excellent example of a video that is immensely informative with respect to self-presentation.


I am incredibly curious what type of things you see in this video and if any tell-tale signs emerge from it. I find your reaction to it highly intriguing and I would love to find out more about what you thought about it! Thanks in advance!


i think you're ESE or EIE, any my preference between these two is EIE. i fear that my explanation as to why i think this is unlikely to be adequate -- because although i think that your video is highly energetic and full of positive affect, it's very hard to obviously describe you in this way from solely your behavior in the video, which is not particularly vibrant or anything other than matter-of-fact. i did pay attention to the content of your response in terms of assessing quadra values (ie, the specific focus on destiny and meaning seeming much more a beta and an Ni theme than an alpha one) -- but it was not exclusively this that led me to my impression. the one thing perhaps i can point to (though by itself it is very weak) is your perhaps over-the-top gratitude towards anyone who is helping you interpret the theory -- which i interpret in the context of your self-presentation as Ti DS. no doubt at least a part of my impression, however much i might decry it is a method, is based on visual information -- again, i don't know why.


i apologize if this is an unconvincing explanation; i certainly wouldn't be convinced of anything by it -- really, though, the video is especially informative with respect to self-presentation.
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby mikesilb » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:46 pm

aestrivex wrote:i think you're ESE or EIE, any my preference between these two is EIE. i fear that my explanation as to why i think this is unlikely to be adequate -- because although i think that your video is highly energetic and full of positive affect, it's very hard to obviously describe you in this way from solely your behavior in the video, which is not particularly vibrant or anything other than matter-of-fact. i did pay attention to the content of your response in terms of assessing quadra values (ie, the specific focus on destiny and meaning seeming much more a beta and an Ni theme than an alpha one) -- but it was not exclusively this that led me to my impression. the one thing perhaps i can point to (though by itself it is very weak) is your perhaps over-the-top gratitude towards anyone who is helping you interpret the theory -- which i interpret in the context of your self-presentation as Ti DS. no doubt at least a part of my impression, however much i might decry it is a method, is based on visual information -- again, i don't know why.


i apologize if this is an unconvincing explanation; i certainly wouldn't be convinced of anything by it -- really, though, the video is especially informative with respect to self-presentation.


I think that EIE can certainly be a reasonable candidate for which type I am. The fact that it is still Ethics/Feeling-first (like the EII) makes it certainly a possibility. I would have thought that EII would fit better, because I tend to be more introverted in general, and that the authentic sincerity that Fi exhibits would appear to be more up my alley than the Fe of an EIE. But, if I had to pick a runner-up candidate for my type (which may potentially be my type when all is said and done), EIE makes a heck of a lot of sense too.

Honestly, I believe that my top four candidate types are EII, EIE, IEE, and ESI. I do think that Ethics-first (or in other words, rational-first) makes more sense than intuition-first (irrational-first).

Does anyone have any additional feedback? Should I make another (more biographical video) to supplement this Lost-based one? Let me know! Thanks!
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Re: mikesilb...EII or a different type?

Postby RSV3 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:32 pm

Sorry I still haven't responded to your initial video yet. If you're interested in doing a follow up video, I'd be interested to hear about the people I'm your life that you like/appreciate and what traits you appreciate them for having and why; same with people in your life you dislike.
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